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What is so Thai about Thaitanium
Bangkokrecorder Magazine - Bangkok Music
Friday, 16 June 2006

Baggy pants, over-sized tees, gold chains and perched hats, Thaitanium look like hip hop cartoon caricatures come to life.

Although Thailand has claimed this hip pop outfit as their own, MCs Pcess (“Way” Prinya Intachai) and SD (Sunny Day, or “Day” Naymyo Thant) and MC/producer KH for King of the Hustle (“Khan” Kanngoen Nannual) all say they feel, “half-and-half” as in half-American, half-Thai.

“We think half-Thai and half-American, but we grew up there. [Our music] started over there too,” says Khan.

The group split their time up between the two countries and they rap in both languages. Their music, on the other hand, is entirely US rap. “I don’t like to sample,” says Khan. “And I don’t play any Thai instruments or music so it’s hard to include it into the music, but generally I love Thai music.”

Originally dubbed ‘AA,’ the group launched with a modest 20 copies of their first self-titled release in 2000. The artists admit they “talked a lot of trash” in their raw and uncensored debut album.

Thaitanium

“We’re still aggressive,” insists Way. “But we have more direction now because we reach more people… Music is always about growth and that’s what happened to us – we grew. Now, we rap about our lives, how we grew up to present days in clubs and girls…”

Day wraps it up: “Everything we put out is real.”

Now five albums and one film soundtrack later, wide exposure on music channels, a single with Tata Young, performances at Asia’s biggest events, a record company, modeling and acting careers and a fashion label, Thaitanium are clearly riding the commercial wave of success. As well as their MTV endorsement, they are being carried on the backs of an unrelenting fan base, most of whom are adoring women.

“Their fame hasn't dropped at all,” says 29-year old Kazira Dusitkittikul, an avid follower. “They’re still very popular among hip hop fans, even though there are lots of newcomers. They are also good at English too. Their songs are mostly mixed Thai and English. The kids like this.”

Inexplicably calling themselves “hustlers, not gangstas,” Thaitay’s mainstream stardom has met with some considerable contempt. The most outspoken anti-tanium activists will vent on internet forums, namely, ours.

“Copy book wanna be gangsta hip hop outfit,” scathed one BangkokRecorder.com forum-follower.

Another railed: “The music is weak, the lyrics are sad, the videos look like p-diddy rejects. Not a lot of originality here.”

While, “fake” and “utter shite” have been some other colorful adjectives used to describe this popular threesome.

ThaitaniumSo what do Thaitay say to critics accusing them of mimicking US rap?

“It is US rap!” exclaims Khan.

“All those critics, they haven’t walked in our shoes!” says Way. “They have no idea what it’s like to be us.”

“Yeah, rock doesn’t come from Thailand but you don’t hear anyone complaining about all those rock bands copying American sounds,” argues Day.

While Thaitanium-bashers may have a valid point in their music and image being derivative and ‘try-hard,’ if you look at the wider picture, you will find that appropriation is intrinsic to Thai culture, not to mention, inherent in hip hop as well.

There are countless examples of how Thailand has mirrored ideas and styles from other cultures and had major success with it here. From 17th century classical architecture to the French influence in Thai cuisine, the Siamese have always especially emulated Western cultures.

So it’s little surprise that American hip pop culture is being Xeroxed for consumption by a more-than-willing audience. And just like photocopies, the outcome is somewhat inferior in quality and mass-produced through major outlets like MTV Asia.

ThaitaniumWhat Thaitanium can be credited for is that they, along with Joey Boy, are viewed as the first to produce and enterprise on Thai hip hop.

“Hip hop has been exploding here for the past five years,” explained Khan. “The thing with Thai kids is that they don’t really understand or know about this genre, it’s just for fashion...”

“They’ve missed out on 25 years of history,” pointed out Way. “Thai kids have gotten all their information from the internet so they haven’t been brainwashed by record companies. But their characters are still unclear. The culture is still growing, but it needs more time.”

Even our cynical forum posters admit they are pioneers:

“The Thai rap scene is still in its infancy stage,” posted one reader. “Groups like Thaitanium or Joeyboy help to build a scene. They are quite popular and show that you can be successful with Thai rap.

“Others will follow and sooner or later there will the one with the flow and style we all wait for.”

by Karuna Gurung

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Comments (3) >>
Dajim and Shomori Pass
written by Por, January 24, 2008

Dajim, Shomori Pass are much better rappers than anyone in Thaitanium. You can hear in what they write. I like Dajims honest and shomori pass style is just cooler than them. If he copy and maybe he is, he does better job copying than Thaitay. Those two are only hope for scene in Thai Hip Hop getting better. Buddha Bless have some good sound but rap is bore for me.

For above comment
written by Thai boy, August 08, 2007

1 year passed for this blog and many thing has changed from now with our Rap and Hiphop concern in Thailand.
One Hiphop group 'Thaitanium' still be a famous group in here too with theirs unbreakable unique characteristic as long as from the first time they were came up with the first album until now.
They became an idol for many thai teen who loves hiphop music and also some body who never know what's hiphop or rap before could turn to start listening this kind of music.
I believe that Hiphop music wasn't born here but it can grow in here as well as long as the days passed, it would show you that we can have our own style with this foreign kind of music by our ideal titanium brain.

Beast Da Lyricst
written by Andrew Tindukasiri aka B d L, June 25, 2007

well i have to say i disagree with not using thai intruments or even sampling drum riffs here and there
if you dont sample shit from the home land then
how yall going be original

check it hommie im half thai half american
my self and i aquired some music from Isan
and they got some dope riffs
you can make any music into hiphop
it all starts with the rite samples and loops
theres nothing wrong with sampling as long as its not the whole damm
song bites and pieces, that is the essense of hiphop
well i will be in thailand sooneer than yall think when i hit the scene there then youll be hearing oringinal shzzznit
aiight
beast da lyricst o7
Guerilla war Fare 714

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