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The Big Debate: Fitness First or California Wow?
Written by Frankie Moocho   
Wednesday, 13 June 2007

In a billion baht industry, health clubs in Thailand are constantly facing off to attract new members. Most affluent gym-goers in Bangkok can be divided into members of either UK-based Fitness First and California Wow from the US. Before we ask fitness freaks their thoughts on which gym outdoes the other, let's start with a little history lesson... 

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Fitness First was founded in 1992, with the first branch opening in Bournemouth, England in February the following year. Fourteen years later, 500 Fitness First gyms can be found in 17 countries in Europe, Australia and the Asia-Pacific with more than 1.2 million members. Bangkok boasts 14 Fitness First outlets, while FF managing director Simon Flint said the company also plans to expand to Chiang Mai, Khon Kaen, Pattaya and possibly Phuket. The UK-based gym is targeting 1.2 billion baht in revenues this year.   California Fitness (CFC) came to Thailand in 2001 to directly challenge Fitness First. Eric Levine, california Wow CEO, has invested heavily into setting up nine branches in Bangkok and Chiang Mai with each outlet costing up to 200 million baht. California Wow has become known for its assertive marketing campaigns with loud sales offices on the ground floor of every branch, of which the buildings are also plastered with enlarged posters of oiled bodies. The other main shareholder in CFC is Major Cineplex, Thailand's largest cinema company, which owns 49% of the gym chain.

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Both Fitness First and California Wow offer "special deals," which sales assistants usually press you to buy that very day as the "promotion" will end the following day. However, while Fitness First members get an all-inclusive package, California Wow members have to pay extra for yoga and pilates classes and a padlock for locker doors. Though, some argue that yoga classes offered at California Wow are more authentic, with the gym flying in yoga teachers from India.

ImageJoining Fitness First generally costs 20 percent more than California Wow membership, with monthly subscription fees ranging between 1,000 THB to 2,500 THB. Some California Wow promotions offer lifetime membership starting at 20,000 THB. However, California Wow's hard sell tactics can actually put off passers-by and members themselves.

"...they are hustling me almost every time I'm in the gym to 'upgrade' my membership. They even try selling to me in the middle of my workouts," wrote in one disgruntled member to a local newspaper.

And according to its members, the US-based gym's "industrial" approach to marketing is very much a recurring theme throughout the gym.

""There are more people than machines," wrote the same unhappy patron.

Image"They [Fitness First and California Fitness] are quite similar in classes, equipment, etc., but I found Fitness First had a nicer atmosphere….definitely friendlier," said one former Fitness First member who was lured by a more cost effective deal at California Wow. "It felt more like my gym at Fitness First, at California Wow I feel like I'm just a body paying the bill."

Another member found the hands-off approach sarcastically refreshing: "I like being left alone and completely ignored by the unhelpful staff because I hate being told what to do."

A recent experiment carried out by the Bangkok Post comparing the two gyms found racial discrimination when asking for membership quotes. A Thai and a foreigner were recruited to pose separately as prospective members looking for a deal at Fitness First and California Wow. At Fitness First, both parties were treated fairly and came away happy with their service. At California Wow, however, the Thai client received a better deal than the farang customer.

ImagePerhaps that's why California Wow enjoys a majority Thai clientele, whereas Fitness First members are more international.  However, Fitness First's foreign patrons pose yet another conundrum:
 
"Since California Wow does not have that many farang customers and since the locker room does not have ample walking space, one is mostly spared one of Western civilization highlights: the parading in the nude of all kinds of misshaped elderly males. At Fitness First this phenomenon can be viewed daily, clearly demonstrating the cultural insensitivities of most foreign visitors, that is, not taking into consideration the Thais' tendency for modesty…" (source: http://www.thaiwebsites.com/exercise.asp)

However, for the some the prospect of nudity is one of the motivational factors for joining a particular gym, especially California Wow.

ImageWhen asked why he joined California Wow on Silom road, one young, buffed DJ Station frequenter honestly replied: "There are hot guys there."

However, the heterosexual outlook is perhaps a little more bleak: "For a year I thought I liked the potential prospect of meeting hot babes there but I never did - not even once!" fumed one California Wow patron.

Image"As a single farang, I wouldn't say that there's any kind of chemistry at Fitness First at the branches that I have been to in the city centre, anyway," said one member. "It's quite a sterile environment…and the music is inoffensively androgenous."

Meanwhile, some would argue that the "obnoxious"-ly loud music at California Fitness with their resident afternoon DJ and signature techno beats could repel clients. But judging from ability to poach members from other gyms, it would appear that their enticing promotional deals far outweigh any threat of inner ear damage.

While they could both count as your friends, it's clear Fitness First and California Wow members are very different. Fitness First is like your straight corporate buddy with money to burn and little time for nonsense, while California Wow is like your colourfully gay hairdresser who likes house music and gossiping.

 

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Comments (19) >>
California Fitness files for bankruptcy (Korea)
written by Mark W, May 23, 2008

California Fitness files for bankruptcy

April 16, 2008

Thousands of Korean fitness enthusiasts were up in arms yesterday when a local chain of the California Fitness gym network failed to give refunds after going bankrupt and shutting down its operations. California WOW Xperience Korea, which started here eight years ago and ran four lavish gyms in Seoul and Daegu, North Gyeongsang,

California Rips you Off
written by Mark W, May 21, 2008

True Story #1
A friend of mine bought 80 sessions with a particular Personal Trainer (PT). After playing 30 sessions with that trainer, top management decided to transfer this trainer to a different branch because he didnt meet his target sales. 18 other customers along with my friend complained this with the head of branch as they all have paid ALOT of money to train the full session package with this trainer. The top management did NOT care a rats ass of what you think. Since everyone paid the lifetime membership deal and are no more use to California Fitness. "If you dont like it here, then just leave" - California Motto

These are only my true account at fitness first. There are alot more stories I've heard from my friends and gym patrons which are far worse than this.

good article
written by Hello Doht Ling, March 11, 2008

Good article, thanks for the advise, will be living in Bangkok for 6-12 months to focus on bodybuilding.

California Wow: Healthy living or gay disco?
written by Santa, February 02, 2008

They're both pretty bad but I think California Wow is worse...

Check out this guy's hilarious article about California Wow in Siam Paragon:

'California Wow: Healthy living or gay disco?'

http://klongofconsciousness.com/?p=27

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written by Jon, January 31, 2008

hey why dont we all unit and post clearly all prices for both California and FitnessFirst....that will give all of us more power to negotiate the best price right?

Fitness First SUCK
written by BloggaBoy, January 25, 2008

Man, don't join this company. THey are the worst. Just check out what others have to say at these sites:

http://fitnessfirstsucks.com/archive/index.php/t-4.html"]Fitness First Sucks

http://silkcharm.blogspot.com/2008/01/facebook-anti-fitness-first-site.html

Or join the facebook group "I Hate Fitness First" (over 1500 members and growing!!) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2405622168



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written by Jon, October 20, 2007

"Hello I have a guest (farang) to use the gym. he's here in Bangkok for 3 days"
He's offered a week package costing 1500 B 55555555555
"Hello I have a guest (thai) to use the gym." He's offered the same package 555 but then he says he might be interested in using the gym!
"Ok you must talk to a sales person first"
An eon passes she arrives - instantly starts to spiel off info and offers.....
"Diamond members can have a friend join CAL WOW for free for 6 months!! WOW!!" No strings? Of course there are! A friend of mine is given the 6 months free documents. We go through all the CAL WOW bureaucracy and assume (stupidly) that would be that! After 6 WEEKS of harassment he is told the offer has ended early...

lol I hate CAL WOW
Anyone wanna a contract from me? I have a special offer that ends in 2 hours !


CALWOW
written by Jon, October 20, 2007

"I seem to have forgotten my card"
"hmmm I think you will have problems today! I don't know your face" (she gives me a frown of utter contempt)
"Ummm actually I come here 5 times a week and see you at the same time everyday ..."


con'td
written by Jae, September 10, 2007

California fitness' sells hard, but forces a commitment, better for them, but u too as its your health. Why? Cuz gyms can't generate cash flow with wish-washy members, they need a commitment. So they stagger payment heavily in favor of multi-year. The club's origins ("24 hr fitness" parent company) survived in the tough saturated LA market, so they know how to stay in business.

But, California members also are more fit, healthier, cuz it requires u 2 commit for longer. And also, cuz sexy people around motivates you to work harder, and so does good music. FF may not press u, but do you really want a club that let's u be not take care of your fitness needs?

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written by Jae, September 10, 2007

Most people join a gym to check out others. For those who say no, why don't u just join your neighborhood gym 200 baht/mo gym? Why don't u just buy a weight set and do it at home?

That's why California WOW (& Cali Fitness, 24 hr fitness) is so successful. They put the trendy in workouts. Yes they are annoying for payment, so make sure u nego hardball but do it once...and for long term. But one thing they learned early on in 1990's as nearly bankrupt 24 hour Nautilus was, boring and clean doesn't sell. Believe it or not, their (parent 24 hr fitness') business model was originally like Fitness First and other boring chains and they were nearly driven out of business in the US.

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written by Aloha, August 21, 2007

I go to True Fitness in Asoke. It is big, posh, and nice good quality equipments. But price is awfully expensive. Not fair deal i would say, price are different between Farang and Thai but whether you are farang or Thai, deals are still ridiculously expensive .Salespersons don't give a shit so much about you once you sign the deal and they are pain in the ass when it comes to some negotiation after you signed the contract membership form. Long story short, Good equipments but service sucks..Did i mention the True Spa deal is shit too?...Very bad bad service...oh..., did they mention just Fitness First and California WOW?

Fitness
written by jar, August 21, 2007

Fitness first is the worst club in my whole life... It cannot gain much client as california have..becouse fitness dosen't have good facilites.. have only ugly staff... which makes more tired when exercising...
i would recommend u to join california fitness, get ur fully desire..

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written by me, August 18, 2007

fitness first is way better...then even called up for their new program and special program without any charged...

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written by P, August 16, 2007

They (W0W) would be better off just having a set price for membership, rather then sitting down like you are buying a new car, and haggling over the price. A total turn off. You can't even just take a tour of the place to check it out, without bargining.

Despite all that I still go to WOW just because it is downstairs from where I live.

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written by Tom, July 05, 2007

Facilities at California are better, though the sales tactics are annoying. Just ignore them and say no.

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written by David, June 22, 2007

The sales tactics at California are horrible. When I was in there and was about to leave, saying i will think about it again, they wouldn't let me go . They even grabbed my arm asking me why I want to go nowß i had to laugh already, telling them WTF is this, I can go whenever i want to and I will lok at other centers first.

And just like sb said before, if you say no to their first offer they will say sth like "OK, wait i will talk to my boss first" then they come back saying sth like "Oh, today my boss makes this special offer ONLY FOR YOU of course" but tomorrow i will not be valid anymore. Yeah right!! How dumb do they think their customers are?

California WTF
written by C, June 16, 2007

The over homo-erotic culture and star trek-like interior aside, California Wow remains a complete disaster. The weight and locker rooms are an after thought. It's rather apparent that airbrush-Levine is content to offer up a shiny well painted shell sans the necessary content for a long term client base. The trainers have as much business training as a parking attendant does racing formula one. There are signs that read "please don't sleep here". What a mess. . .
After a year at California on 23, despite the financial loss i purchased an overlapping contract at a smaller facility that services primariloy businesses within the building. Both Thai and farang frequent. The atmosphere is pleasant and my, now longer, workouts leave me exhausted from effort not frustration. The fact that California has any return business is an absolute mystery.

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written by calihater, June 15, 2007

california is the worst gym in bangkok, dirty sales tactics combined with unfriendly staff who act like they're doing you a favour by being there. I hope they lose all their clientele to fitness first.

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written by Lagrange, June 14, 2007

Just one advice, bargain hard. Tell them you havent decided yet between them and their competitors. Dont take the first price they offer you and calculate it all through....this should push down the price a lot

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